Yup! They make God (or his word) in their image instead of God making us in HIS image! That is how they twist the scriptures. Religion is satans tool.
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Undeclared changes to the 2013 NWT
by Doug Mason inin the following from the 2013 edition of the nwt, the watchtower society indicates that when it released its initial 1950 edition, it considered the greek text provided by westcott and hort as its master text.
as a result of these additional masters, the wts made some undeclared changes to the 2013 nwt.
it does not list these changes or give any explanations.. greek text: in the late 19th century, scholars b. f. westcott and f.j.a.
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Sign this petition - Investigation On Jehovahs Witnesses Religious Policy That Violates Human Rights and Abuses Religious Freedom
by TJ Curioso inlaunch an investigation on jehovahs witnesses religious policy that violates human rights and abuses religious freedom.
link.
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Two more signatures here plus we did the 2014 JW Survey questionaire. When you have nothing left to lose but only your sanity then what the heck. Wish the sanity would have been the first to go for it would have made everything else much easier to deal with. Would have been easier to not give a crap what these idiots think. Wishing all our friends here a better year and a better life than what they have been dealt with.
Hoping all the lurkers the best as well. Don't let this organisation ruin what's left of your brains and families.
LL
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Appointed by holy spirit
by Ben57 ini have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
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So, let me get this straight, it was HS that appointed and eighteen yr old ms after only studying for a year fresh out of the world. Same kid who him and his wife were both not baptised and were able to get married in the hall. The day he got baptised, they had two assembly parts that day along with being made ms weeks later. And so it was HS that annouced this kid from the platform with the elder announcing him and reassuring the audience that there was no simony here when approving him as an ms. This kid was looking after the po's house and dog while while po was down south for the winter for eight weeks like he does every winter.
It was holy spirit that made the above guys twenty-yearold friend who was just reinstated, made ms and then an elder, all within three years while older men who have been in this cult for years faithfully serving it not appointed. Oh, and within the three years this goon was able to take a four year course and get his papers and get married and have a kid. My my how does he do it except we were there to see how he licked labels and their boots.
It was HS that had an elder and his wife study with us DRUNK until we discontinued the study with them and then we were shunned.
Is it HS that directs the goon elders to reinstated a guy (relative to the two above) who is an alchoholic, fooled around on his wife, smashed his wife's car in by hand while drunk, threatens his relatives with loaded pistols in their faces that he's going to kill them (and has no gun license), has the cops after him and the family, and gets a highschool student employee to forge a legal document , all this before during and mostly after he's reinstated????? The elders did nothing until the week I posted what we knew here and in that same week they df the guy and come after us.
Is it HS that allows an idiot to serve while his sixteen yearold daughter gets pregnant to a worldly guy while this is going on under his roof and is able to have a part in the memorial? Yeah, bet Jesus just loved watching this guy give a prayer all the while his daughter is sitting there, pregnant and with her worldly boyfriend and the whole congregation knows. I guess someone forgot to tell the HS about that one.
If appointments were by HS then you tell me why the elders have to tell these idiots ahead of time before the gb sees the letter that they were just made servants and are waiting back from headquarters for a letter of the approval to go ahead and announce them from the platform???? And usually the elders wives are going around letting others know that they have access to this special news weeks before the letter comes back. We wouldn't have believed it if we hadn't seen all this and more with our own eyes. Tell me why a letter of recommendation supposedly went off to headquarters for me but yet the co said no for we were living outside the territory? The big mouth po said I was going to be made ms and they were submitting the letter in but co said no. They make the holy spirit look messed up just like society's teachings.
Jehovah's holy spirit is not on any religion. Religion is satan's tool not the bible. Get out of her my people if you don't want to share in her sins and plagues. Did society lie? Yes! Do I want to be apart of the plagues that Yehovah will strike her with when he comes back? Absolutley not! Nor now am I not apart of her sins. Glad to be rid of this wicked wicked cult.
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What does 2014 mean to you
by NewYork44M insometime in the early 1990s i made a commitment to myself that if the end did not come in 2014 i was going to walk away.
then i started thinking - if i waited until 2014 i would be 57 years old with very few options.
that is when i realized that i needed to make changes to get my life back.
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It can only get better than what we lived through this past year. I did finish off 2013 finally speaking to my sister who wouldn't speak to me for over eight months because I was suppose to have shaken her faith(told her to look up on youtube the snarky apologist's trinity brochure). After three hours on the phone and telling her what happened to us (jc committee and dfing) she finished off telling me what she doesn't like about the org and the new bible. I know, baby steps.
Then, I made an appointment with sister liar's boss for this Friday to let him know what transpired in his store with her and I and how she lied and how I lost all my friends and family. That when I come into his store as a paying customer, I do not want her pushing her religous crap down my throat and that if I get df'd because of more lies from her that he will deal with her. This will stop her from running to the elders or gossiping to anyone about us. It will put her in the same helpless state she put us in with all our friends and family!
And when I came home today there was this nice couple from the hall who stayed with us for five hours telling us how they are not going along with the elders decisions to not talking to us . They also told us they don't believe most of what the society teaches and they don't believe the lies and rumours about us. We were sitting at the table all afternoon digging into our publications showing them how they have been lied to. They asked us to come and visit them. They get no visits from anyone from the hall and you could see they are lonely. All I can say is WOW!
So I can only say 2013 ended on a happy note and it can only get better from here on in. Right?
Thanks to all your stories and encouragement, you really have built me up. I didn't think life could keep going on like this and now finally I've been given a little break for the time being. I hope good things come back to all of you here on JWN
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Goodbye to all
by abiather ini say goodbye to all of you because of the tremendous pressure from my family members who are jws.. anyhow, i enjoyed my association with you for a short period!
it is part of life, as the bible says: we are all temporary residents here (hebrews 11:13).
this is my favorite scripture that has helped me to remain always balanced and equi-poised, helping me not to be greedy towards things or people expecting from them too much!.
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Always remember you are never alone. You can always come here to vent when times in your life are too stressful. Never feel you can't talk to anyone because your with the jw's. Here, your with friends from every walk of life that started where you are going back to. No religion, just friends. Stay safe and be happy.
C/YA
LL
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So, today I ran into one of my accusers that were on my jc
by label licker inand she tried to act as if she were by best friend, hugs and all.
i told her the elders were dirty getting her and her family to come in at the last minute and be my accusers yet none of them could remember anything from six years ago.
i told her this was all on account of her brother.
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It's only when I run into one of these robots (especially the ones that lied on my jc to my face and are now made an elder) that I want to puke. If they would only shut their yaps and quit telling me the same old thing over and over. This sister actually had the nerve to say it wasn't her and her whole family that wanted to be my accusers but it was jehovah that picked them and it was him that formed my committee. That's when I lost it! That's how demonised they are.
Well, off to assignment #2. Believe me when I say this, it's because of the true support that I get from here and from all of you that I can muster up the guts to go and finish what they started, and can quote from that sister who said:"Jehovah made me do it." That's exactly what I will tell the elders if they come to finish me off.
Love you all,
LL
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So, today I ran into one of my accusers that were on my jc
by label licker inand she tried to act as if she were by best friend, hugs and all.
i told her the elders were dirty getting her and her family to come in at the last minute and be my accusers yet none of them could remember anything from six years ago.
i told her this was all on account of her brother.
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It's just so hard to grasp when all this was over lies and schemes. Now in a split hair of a second it's all gone. No family and no friends. It's nice when you can dream of those moments with your loved ones for it's so real that you never want to wake up from those moments that have been snatched from you in real life. This time of the year is the hardest for it makes you think of a family you don't have or can't have.
I was talking to a nurse today who took what I'm going through personally.( I broke down and cried right infront of the whole staff) She said her uncle wouldn't even come to see her dying mother nor go to her funeral for the funeral was in a church. She said he didn't even go to his own mothers funeral. She said she has cousins that don't want to know her and all because she's not one of them. He told her if she became a witness that everything would be different. WTF???
You can see what this org is coming to. This sisters husband was df'd three years ago, moved to our hall and married this sister who is favored.They had our fill-in circuit elder stand in their wedding two years ago.(LABELLICKED) The elders made him an ms and now a year later he is an elder. He lied twice up at the assembly right on stage and my husband went to our fill in circuit elder and the elder's reply was yeah I know it was a little lie but 99 percent of the people there wouldn't know he was lying. WTF????? And this sister before she got married was dating two guys(relatives) plus her old worldly boyfriend along with this schmuk and all at the same time. This schmuk broke off his engagement to another sister(with a kid) in another hall after he was dating this witch. He's twenty-four and she's twenty-six with a kid that was a mistake, so she tells everyone.
It felt good to get it off my chest but I have a couple of more stops and then I'm done. I've already gone to the police two weeks ago and a week later this guy gets df'd. Now on to my next assignment and then I'm done. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Don't ask me why I can't just move on, please. This is my way of moving on and to be done with it once and for all time. I DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG to warrant me losing everything while not even being df'd YET! We all have ways to heal. I'll post my next assignment when all has been accomplished and for the grand finale there's a young man who is seventeen that is being studied with and before he gets in too deep, I want to help his parents get him free. They are devestated for our elders daughter got pregnant by this young man and they are using the child to get this kid to come to the meetings and to learn the religion. The guy that was just made an elder is the one that was assigned to this young man so this poor kid really makes this idiot elder look great in the eyes of the co.
This religion is wicked my friends and it's our responsibility to save lives where we can. I feel we are saving lives everytime we can talk ones out of joining this cult. I now know why Mouthy had to do what she did as well as Barbara Anderson and others. Especially those with kids and the sacrifices they made because they stood firm in their convictions. God bless you all!
Love LL
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So, today I ran into one of my accusers that were on my jc
by label licker inand she tried to act as if she were by best friend, hugs and all.
i told her the elders were dirty getting her and her family to come in at the last minute and be my accusers yet none of them could remember anything from six years ago.
i told her this was all on account of her brother.
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and she tried to act as if she were by best friend, hugs and all. I told her the elders were dirty getting her and her family to come in at the last minute and be my accusers yet none of them could remember anything from six years ago. I told her this was all on account of her brother. She tells me he got df'd last week and her husband who will label lick even the label off the elders underwear was just made an elder. I told her he can thank me for that one since he had alligations against me at my jc that were false. The conversation he was allegeing I had with him was actually with him and my husband.
Anyways, it felt good to get everything off my chest while she ran to the washroom and hid there for a while texting the whole time. She even spoke to my husband and winked at him twice. He's df'd. She told me I needed to be at the meetings and that was gods channel. I told her to say that to Isaac. Abraham, David, the two out of ten spies, Daniel, Moses, Jesus, Jeremiah, Jacob, all the minor prophets, all had to stand on their own in the end relying on only Yehovah. I told her I would do the same and just rely on him since we all have an individual accounting and not a group session accounting. I think I freaked her out.
So here's my prediction for 2014.....Df'd:)
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New to JWN and excited!
by sunny23 inhave been visiting jwn for about a week now and it motivated me to join.
i look forward to meeting everyone i can and learning from their experiences and wisdom as i search for more and more reasons not to get reinstated.
here's most of my story:.
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Welcome Sunny23! Lisa Rose I was just saying the same thing tonight. All of a sudden we have another burst of newcomers on board. I wonder what it was to gush in this new bunch. It always starts with lurking here. Once you come here, you really get to learn what the religion was all about. With alot of us, it started with a boot out society's door because we couldn't agree with their doctrines and the rest is history. I hope to see more as the light gets brighter:)
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shock horror! WITNESSING ATTIRE NOW CONDONES OPEN-NECK SHIRTS FOR MALES!
by steve2 ingo to jw.org right now friends and you will see a young male jw witnessing in a rural setting with publication in hand and - take careful note - wearing a crisply-white open-neck shirt.
bring out the carnival, light the lights: the organ ization is kicking itself into an ongoing casualization of its rank and file.. in the 1960s through 1980s i know brothers who dared to attire themselves sans ties who were reprimanded or worse.
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We were asked if we could be more lay back and go to the doors after work perhaps and in our work clothes so the householder felt more comfortable. This was asked from our co right from the stage. Or if we're on our way home from somewhere and we're not in our service clothes but are still looking presentible, could we do a few doors before turning in for the night.